The difference between Softline windows 70 and 82 mm from other Veka profile systems
The company offers several types of profiles, including:
The difference between Veka Softline profiles lies in the technical characteristics of the windows.
Installation width
Installation width is one of the main indicators that people pay attention to when choosing plastic windows. This definition means the transverse size of the frame adjacent to the wall.
In the case of the SoftLine profile line, we are talking about installation widths of 70 mm and 82 mm. These indicators exceed the standard profile characteristics of many other lines from this manufacturer.
Thermal insulation level
Thanks to the increased installation width in Softline windows, it is possible to achieve a higher level of thermal insulation and sound insulation. Such double-glazed windows effectively cope with several tasks:
- prevent the penetration of cold air even in harsh climatic conditions;
- muffles the street noise of busy highways.
At the same time, options with a smaller frame width cannot be called lower quality. When choosing, you should proceed from the requirements for window systems. So in regions with a mild climate there is no need for wide frames, while areas with a harsh climate require enhanced insulation of housing.
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Price
When describing the Veka Softline 70 mm and 82 mm profile, you need to take into account the price of the products. Compared to some other lines of the company, it can be called a premium profile. At the same time, a minimal number of additions will allow you to install plastic window systems at an affordable price.
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Disadvantages of VEKA window profiles
Nothing is perfect, and consumers were quick to share their negative experiences online.
Profile quality
User Guest on the oknaplan forum complains that despite the energy-saving double-glazed windows and four-chamber VEKA profile, condensation and even ice appeared inside the window in winter.
But it is unlikely that the profile of the plastic window is to blame here. You need to look for the cause of condensation in poor air circulation. Maybe there is humid air in the room. That is, here you need to understand - are the necessary rules for the operation of plastic windows observed?
Choosing a window company
User ariadna300 on the Otzovik forum writes that she encountered the most common problem - she chose an unscrupulous installation company.
Be careful: the window is only effective if installed correctly
“The material is normal, but the measuring and installation were done poorly. What they delivered was not what we ordered. In general, pay and sign the work acceptance certificate only after you are convinced of the quality,” she advises.
Let us add that choosing a good window company is not so easy. Word of mouth, how long the company has been present on the local market, whether the prices it quotes are too low, whether it spends too little on advertising, etc. all play a role.
But there is the main thing - any profile, no matter how good it is, is effective only if installed correctly.
Difference between 70 mm and 82 mm models
The Softline line includes 2 types of profiles:
Consumers who want to install window systems in an apartment or office often wonder which of these options will be the best. There cannot be a definite answer to this question, since it is necessary to take into account the customer’s individual requirements for plastic windows. Veka softline 70 mm and 82 mm differ in several points:
- installation width;
- number of cameras in the frame;
- maximum glass thickness;
- heat transfer resistance indicator;
- number of insulation circuits used.
Technical characteristics of softline profiles 70 mm and 82 mm
To choose the best option for a particular case, you should study the technical indicators of the Veka system in more detail - profile structures have different characteristics and operational features.
Plastic profile Softline 70 mm:
“> Frame thickness or installation width (mm) | “> 70 |
“> Number of cameras in the frame (pcs.) | “> 5 |
“> Seal contours (pcs.) | “> 2 |
“> Permissible glass thickness (mm) | “> 4-42 |
“> Heat transfer resistance (m2 S/W) | “> 0,75 |
The main characteristic of this window profile is in millimeters, width 70 mm. This feature makes it possible to install a wide energy-saving package. For owners of private houses, this choice will be optimal: energy losses at home are reduced and, accordingly, home heating costs are reduced.
The frame with 5 air chambers fully complies with the requirements for window systems of category A (the highest category).
The installation of Veka Softline 70 mm allows the use of wide double-glazed windows with a thickness of 4-42 millimeters.
This distinguishes the profile from other product lines of the manufacturer. So in Euroline windows (Veka Euroline) the thickness of the double-glazed windows reaches 32 mm. The minimum number of double-glazed windows is 2.
The frame design is supplemented with closed-section reinforcement. This feature makes the window structure as durable as possible and resistant to mechanical damage.
At the customer’s request, such structures can have the following types of opening mechanisms:
- blind (non-opening), often used in office buildings;
- rotary;
- folding;
- tilt and turn.
Veka Softline windows 82 mm:
“> Frame thickness or installation width (mm) | “> 82 |
“> Number of cameras in the frame (pcs.) | ” data-sheets-numberformat=”“> 6-7 |
“> Seal contours (pcs.) | “> 3 |
“> Permissible glass thickness (mm) | “> 24-52 |
“> Heat transfer resistance (m2 S/W) | “> 1,09 |
Window systems with a frame thickness of 82 mm are considered structures with increased heat and sound insulation characteristics. Manufacturers have improved the technical characteristics by increasing the number of chambers in the frame - here there can be 6 or 7 of them. The maximum thickness of the glass unit has also been increased (24-52 mm).
Residents of those regions where winters are characterized by low temperatures and strong winds can choose such products.
Additional protection is provided by 3 insulation circuits. This exceeds the performance of most other lines from this manufacturer and even Veka Softline ad (70 mm).
Such softline energy efficiency indicators can be used for installation in private homes, office and industrial buildings. In this case, different technological types of structures can be manufactured, such as:
- standard;
- products with an increased level of thermal insulation;
- designs with a high safety rating.
An important feature when ordering window structures is the choice of fittings. Roto nt fittings are suitable for the window, however, all types of handles and other mechanisms used for PVC windows are suitable for this window system.
Customer reviews about the profile
Dmitry, 48 years old, Krasnoyarsk The question of choosing plastic windows arose during the construction of a private house. The main task was to choose strong and warm plastic windows, but not to overpay for unnecessary additions. My wife and I did not follow the lead of advertising and began to independently study the technological characteristics of profiles from several manufacturers. As a result, we chose Softline windows from Vek. There are several advantages that can be mentioned:
- The width of 70 mm allows you to install double-glazed windows. For a private home, this is an important indicator of energy efficiency.
- The quality of profile reinforcement was studied with particular passion. The products of this company offer a closed reinforced profile (in the form of a rectangle). This feature makes the windows as durable and resistant to deformation as possible.
The disadvantages include the fact that the window structures are relatively heavy and that the price is an order of magnitude higher than the prices of many other systems.
Tatyana, 29 years old, Tyumen I ordered Softline windows for my apartment. Choosing the best option from what is offered on the market is difficult. The assortment is large, but I have no special knowledge in this area. I asked friends who had recently installed windows. Several people ordered Veka products (70 mm thick), and that’s what I chose. I've been using it for a year now and am completely satisfied with the results. The windows turned out to be warm and not ventilating. You can hardly hear city noise, although I live on a street with active traffic. Condensation does not accumulate on the glass (windows do not “cry”).
Igor, 34 years old, Surgut
We live in a private house, and the window in the living room was recently replaced. We ordered Veka Softline windows 82 mm. Some friends believe that we overpaid for unnecessary reinforcement of the structure. However, we were completely satisfied. The cost turned out to be considerable, but the house became warmer. Before this, in the winter the frames in the hall were heavily blown and it was cold in the house.
Veka plastic windows - reviews
Valery
Century windows last for 20 years, I don’t know any problems at all, who says that the century windows are bad, that means they installed a fake, if they turn yellow and it blows, a lot depends on the installation
Serg
Rehao!?!Are you serious!?? The manager asked (AKTO company) where is it warmer? even warmer? As a result, the frame is icy, the audibility is excellent, we wipe it twice a day.
Ida
https://taratorim.ru/remont-obustroystvo/plastikovye-okna-veka-otzyvy-okna-pvh-profilya-veka-t9273-45.html#p60779
We've had century profiles for six months without complaining. We decided to take a more expensive one so that the plastic would not let us down later. But what also won me over were the terms and conditions of the supplier, the warranty and installation.
Evgeniy123
https://forum.derev-grad.ru/otzivi-ob-okonnih-kompaniyah-f132/otzyvy-o-proizvoditelyakh-plastikovykh-okon-veka-t4764.html
I recently installed Veka windows. I didn’t expect such quality from a relatively new company! Low price, no advance payment, quick installation. Veka windows are the ideal solution for those who want excellent quality for little money. I recommend this company to everyone!
By heimmlich666
https://podmasterij.ru/plastikovye-okna/okna-veka-otzyvy.html
The best choice, in my opinion. We ourselves recently installed windows at our dacha, but for a long time we could not choose which windows were better, ultimately choosing Veka. At first, however, it was a little difficult to make a choice, since the Vekas are of good quality, by hearsay, but the price was also not an unimportant factor for us, but still, hoping that we will not spend our money in vain for these windows, I can say that they are rightfully worth it money: they look quite simple and at the same time elegant, they don’t allow air to pass through when closed, which is very good considering the cold weather this year, and in general they are convenient to use. I recommend Veka - the quality more than matches the price.
By Ekaterina
https://podmasterij.ru/plastikovye-okna/okna-veka-otzyvy.html
My husband and I recently moved to a new apartment, but the renovations there were unfortunately disappointing. In winter it was impossible to sleep from the windows, it was very windy, and besides, our bed was right next to them. Soon, after consulting with my husband, we decided to install plastic windows from your company. Your windows were a godsend for us; we slept peacefully, finally there was no wind from the street. I will recommend your company to all my friends. Install plastic windows from this company, you will not regret it.
Andry
https://oknaforum.su/index.php?/topic/4926-veka/page__view__findpost__p__6789
Veka is a brand well known throughout Europe. This brand provides excellent product quality and good warranty service. But, like every good manufacturer, there are many counterfeits of this brand. When purchasing Veka products, be sure to request certificates of conformity.
Denis K
https://otzovik.com/review_1480923.html
Advantages:
Profile quality
Flaws:
The price is the same as for competitive profiles, the performance is slightly lower
Today I would like to talk about Vek's profile. We will talk using the example of Veka Evroline. Since I constantly hear the phrase from friends and acquaintances: “Veka is the best,” I decided to dispel these myths. So, Century Euroline. Like all other names of profile manufacturers with roots in Germany, Veka has been manufactured in Russia for a long time. The Veka Rus add-on can tell the buyer about this, which sellers, naturally, are silent about. Certainly! After all, it’s better to say loudly: German quality! Hence the first comparison - the profile is produced in Russia. Just like Rehau or Gealan (Ivaper plant in St. Petersburg). The second comparison we will have is the installation depth of the profile. Evroline has a depth of 58 mm, while Rehau Blitz is 60 mm, and Gealan 3000 is 62 mm. The third point of our comparison. Thermal conductivity resistance. This is the most important indicator among profile characteristics! It characterizes transmission heat losses through building envelopes and is measured in m2C/W. After analyzing various tables given on the manufacturers' websites, we can derive the following resistance coefficients: Veka three-chamber (profile! not a double-glazed window! double-glazed windows are double-chamber or single-chamber and do not apply to this indicator) has an indicator of 0.55 Rehau three-chamber (again profile) - 0 .65 Gealan three-chamber has 0.67 m2C/W. From this it can be seen that in one class of profiles Veka loses to the same Gealan or Rehau. Of course, you and I will not see and cannot physically feel how one Joule of heat passes through 1 square meter of our structure in an hour. But to understand which number is higher and which is lower is given to each of us. Other indicators that influence the quality of your window include: internal reinforcement, fittings, build quality... Here everything depends on the window manufacturing plant, and not on the quality of the profile. I hope each of us is lucky and turns to a conscientious seller! I would like to remind you that I made this comparison only out of a desire to show people that the words “the best”, “wonderful”, “excellent” must be supported by specific numbers! Any of these three profiles, produced at official dealer factories in accordance with all GOSTs and SNiPs, will be good and of high quality. But which one is better is up to you, the consumers, to decide! I wish you success in your choice!
Kusik
https://otzovik.com/review_1320613.html
Advantages:
good profile
Flaws:
haven't found it yet
We installed Veka PVC windows in our apartment a long time ago; they have a good profile, the windows don’t fog up and there’s no draft anywhere. The fittings work like new and do not jam anywhere. Good windows in a house mean warmth and comfort. Therefore, the choice of windows must be taken seriously. Veka windows are a good and reliable profile. Tested.
misaraba
https://irecommend.ru/content/samye-luchshie-okna-uzhe-5-let-raduyus-ochen-podrobno-o-moem-vybore-informatsiya-iz-neskolki
When we started renovating, I spent a very long time choosing windows! And I’ll tell you why I chose these ones. I read on the Internet, asked friends, and even studied the technical specifications for windows and their installation. We immediately ordered 3 large windows plus a balcony. I have triple glazed windows in my rooms, and double glazed windows in the kitchen, because there is also a glazed balcony. How to check the number of glasses in a window? You need to bring a burning candle to the window in the dark and count the number of reflections of the flame - there should be three.
So, now I’ll tell you why Veka:
1. The profile is square in cross-section, and not U-shaped, as in the others. This means the design is more reliable.
2. Closing and opening mechanisms are very reliable. Convenient micro-ventilation mode.
3. Installation. In our region, only the Century was installed correctly for me. Firstly, the next day they covered all the seams on the outside and did not leave any foam sticking out. It tends to deteriorate from the sun and moisture. Secondly, in our city, all window companies have a high turnover, and the guys who installed our windows each work in the company for several years. They installed the windows very well. I personally climbed with a level and checked. But my friend, who was flattered at KBE, complained that he personally had to measure everything and explain to the workers how to install it correctly. And watch them so they don’t mess up. Moreover, he helped, supported and then insulated the foam from the outside himself.
4. Test of time. My windows are 5 years old and they are like new. I especially like the way they close and open. There is a feeling of some kind of condom. And I often go to visit, so I try to open the windows there. If so, it’s immediately clear that they are flimsy. It feels like they don’t fit, like plywood. Well, they are getting loose.
However, of the people I know, only my former boss had century-old windows. But he is a thorough guy and will not spend an extra ruble without studying the topic and making sure of the quality of the product. I could not have wasted time searching, but just asked him)))
And about prices. 3 large windows with slopes and window sills cost us 40 thousand rubles at those prices. Probably more expensive than kbe, but not significantly. We waited for the window for about a month. I have never regretted that I chose these windows. Only wooden ones can be better. But my carpenter friend said that finding the right wooden windows now is a real challenge.
aleksey1990
https://irecommend.ru/content/teplo-i-uyutno-na-rabote
I installed these windows at work, and I’ll tell you about the ones I installed at home a little later.
The office used to have glass windows, but it was constantly drafty. It was useless to seal it, so we decided to install windows. We measured the window and they made it for us.
One window with a door cost 22,000 rubles. So I installed it. The rest cost us 9000 each.
They installed it quickly, it became much warmer at work, now there is no air flow through the windows, and somehow it has become more modern. I can recommend this company because I liked the quality. I recommend!
Average cost of a profile in Moscow
It is impossible to name the exact cost of the Veka Softline 82 and 70 mm profile. The price will depend on several features such as:
- window size;
- window frame thickness (70 or 82 mm);
- type of insulation;
- type of fittings;
- opening mechanism (swivel, tilt, turn-tilt);
- additional details.
The approximate cost of a finished structure with a thickness of 70 mm is in the following range:
- double-leaf window - 11,000-14,000 rubles;
- three-leaf window - 13,500-16,000 rubles;
- balcony block - 18,000-22,000 rubles.
Prices for windows with a thickness of 82 mm are as follows:
- double-leaf window - 21,000-24,000 rubles;
- three-leaf window - 26,000 29,000 rubles;
- balcony block - 29,000-33,000 rubles.
Thus, every buyer can choose a high-quality window at the best price.
More quality, less money
Are you used to getting the best, but want to save a little? The VEKA 70 profile is an ideal price-quality ratio. Profile class A+ does not necessarily mean “very expensive”. Your choice is VEKA 70!
Number of cameras 4/5
Energy efficiency class A+
Profile system for professional solutions
Stable multi-chamber system with excellent insulating properties
- High quality plastic, resistant to environmental influences
- Smooth smooth surface
- The use of special reinforcing reinforcements ensures high stability of the structure
High sound insulation ensures peace and quiet in your home
SHOW SPECIFICATIONS
Profile system
- Multi-chamber profiles 70 mm wide
- The outer wall thickness of 3 mm complies with RAL standards
- Elegant contour following the geometric pattern of EUROLINE and SOFTLINE
- The width of the frame-sash combination in the light opening is 112 mm
- Special reinforcement according to VEKA standards
- It is possible to use the same reinforcements in the frame and sash
Functionality
Standard windows, windows with increased thermal insulation, windows with improved noise insulation qualities, increased security window systems, balcony doors, facades
Certificates and licenses
Certificates of leading European institutions, Rostest certificate, hygienic, fire certificates, ISO and RAL certificates
Scope of application
- Pivot, tilt-and-turn, tilt-and-turn, hinged, sliding windows
- A diverse range of double-glazed windows used: conventional, with increased energy-saving characteristics, noise-proof, special
- Decorative crossbars inside a double-glazed window, glued to the double-glazed window, separating the double-glazed window
SEALS
- Seam seal
- Continuous sealing contour in frame and sash
- Special sealing systems made of APTK, TPE or silicone
- Black seals
PHYSICAL PROPERTIES
- Thermal insulation characteristics comply with DIN 4108 and EnEV standards
- Sound insulation VDI2719, noise protection classes from II to IV
- Anti-burglary characteristics comply with DIN V ENV 1627 1630 standards
GLASS UNIT
- Double-glazed window installation depth 21 mm
- Range of glazing used from 4 mm to 42 mm
DECORATIVE BARS
- The crossbars separating the glass unit can be 64, 85 and 118 mm wide
Additional profiles and accessories
- Connection profiles
- Extenders
- Stand profiles
- Profiles for wall connection
- Connectors
- Decorative profiles
- Profiles for additional reinforcement
ACCESSORIES USED
All major fitting systems can be used
Advantages of VEKA window profiles
Quite a lot of reviews on the forums indicate the high quality of the profile.
Thermal insulation
Here’s what user valentina k writes on the Otzovik forum, who has already installed these windows: “It has become much warmer in the house. We managed to save 25 percent on heat payments.” However, almost everyone praises the heat-insulating properties of this profile. Valentina also notes that cleaning these windows is very easy and does not take much time or effort.
Soundproofing
One of the users on the id4.ru forum writes that the sound insulation of these windows is “at the level”; neither the barking of dogs nor the March cats can be heard. This is understandable, since even one of the most inexpensive Euroline profiles from VEKA has high sound insulating properties.
Aesthetics
The “Veka” profile looks beautiful even after several years of use
User NNattalli35 told on the Otzovik forum that she chose an unusual window design with a VEKA profile and was pleased. “Still like new and the glossy finish is very durable and won’t scratch,” she writes. Of course, she overpaid for the unusualness, but she was satisfied with the result. The photo that NNattalli35 attached to the review shows that the window is really very beautiful and there are no signs of use at all.
The appearance of the window is especially important during the holidays. Read how to decorate a window for the New Year. About the proper care of windows: how to wash them, and sometimes where and what to lubricate them with - see this material.
Blinds make windows more attractive. Information about this beauty (blinds and curtains for the balcony) at the link: